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Lutz Möller .338-06 Ackley KJG Munition

Lutz Möller 8,5 mm KJG Geschoß 8500; 30,5 mm lang, 9 g schwer, BC 0,361
für 84 mm lange .338-06 Ackley Patrone, 60 cm Lauf, GEE 217 m, ± 5 cm Reichweite 251 m

Pulver Masse
[g]
Dichte
[%]
Druck [bar] Umsatz
[%]
V0
[m/s]
Bemerkung
höchst vorn
Norma 201 4,15 104,8 4.456 594 98,66 1.028 empfohlen
Norma 202 4,00 104,9 3.877 572 99,33 995
PCL 508 4,07 98,1 4.470 582 99,84 1.034
Rottweil R901 3,87 105,1 4.083 569 99,46 1.002
Vihtavuori N120 3,50 98,9 4.432 461 100,0 985
Vihtavuori N130 3,75 103,5 4.317 502 100,0 994
Alliant Reloder-10x 3,73 102,0 4.447 536 100,0 1.022
Flugbahn
Weite [m] 0 50 100 150 200 250 300
Schnelle [m/s] 1.011 964 918 873 831 787 741
Bahn [cm] -4,5 +1,3 +4,5 +4,8 +1,8 -4,7 -15,0
Leistungen
Fleisch [cm] 65 63 62 60 59 58 57
Knochen [cm] 15 14 14 13 12 11 10

Vergleich

Patrone Geschoß Masse
[g]
Anfangs-
druck
[bar]
Lauf-
länge
[mm]
V0
[m/s]
GEE
[m]
± 5 cm
Reichweite
[m]
Fehl-
reich-
weite
[m]
V300
[m/s]
Bahn300
[cm]
.338-06
Ackley
KJG 9 150 60 1.011 217 251 0 741 -15
CDP
KS

8,5x63 Keiler in Anatolien

Lies erst ein Türkischer Rekordkeiler 2006 und dann Keilerjagd 2007 in Kleinasien!

Petur,

please measure the Volume of a fired Case. Than I can reckon You a Load.

Lutz, Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:03:58 +0100

Lutz,

filled to the brim, water volume weighs 4,78 grams.

Thanks, Pétur, Mittwoch, 31. Oktober 2007 17:52

Hello, Lutz!

I am looking forward to try the 8,5 mm KJG on driven boar in my .338-06 Ackley Improved. For your interest here is some information on how to form cartridges for this calibre. I more or less follow the advice given by George C. Nonte in his Home Guide to Cartridge Conversions, Stackpole Books 1967; a standard 30-06 case is primed with a large pistol primer and then charged with pistol powder, in my case 0,97 g of Bullseye. For over powder wad a quarter sheet of toilet tissue is then rammed down with a pencil. The case is filled up with some non-abrasive filler. I use flour for this and then seal the case with vaseline to avoid spilling the flour. Firing this in a 338-06 Ackley rifle will produce a perfectly formed cartridge case in that calibre. The only difference between this case and one fired with full power load is a slightly sharper shoulder on the latter but shoulder diametre is the same. While there is no bullet, the force of this charge can cause severe injury at very close range so one has to be careful.

Regards, Pétur, Samstag, 3. November 2007 19:37

Petur,

be careful with Flour, as it may burn. Saw dust will not.

Lutz,

Primers

Hello Lutz,

Thank you for your e-mail and advice. I should have known that you are just as familiar with this aspect of shooting as any other! In my loads for this .338-06 Ackley cartridge I have, until now, used 16,2 g Nosler Partitions on 3,69 g of VV160 and magnum primers. Should I also use magnum primers for the load you recommend for this cartridge/KJG ?

Regards, Pétur, Sonntag, 4. November 2007 15:44

Petur,

that Load was sick! Much too slow Powder. Sure Magnum Primers were right for the Vihtavuori N160, but just 3000 bre are not enough. Those were just 2/3 of the intended Pressure!

Around 4 g are the Powderamount from which You may start to use Magnum Primers. In This Case the fast burning Powders may not require it, but they are an Option. Which Powder will You load?

Sincerely, Lutz

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