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Lutz Möller 8,5 mm KJG Geschoß 8500; 30,5 mm lang, 9 g schwer, BC 0,361
für 84 mm lange .338-06 Ackley Patrone, 60 cm Lauf, GEE 217 m, ± 5 cm Reichweite 251 m
| Pulver | Masse [g] |
Dichte [%] |
Druck [bar] | Umsatz [%] |
V0 [m/s] |
Bemerkung | |
| höchst | vorn | ||||||
| Norma 201 | 4,15 | 104,8 | 4.456 | 594 | 98,66 | 1.028 | empfohlen |
| Norma 202 | 4,00 | 104,9 | 3.877 | 572 | 99,33 | 995 | |
| PCL 508 | 4,07 | 98,1 | 4.470 | 582 | 99,84 | 1.034 | |
| Rottweil R901 | 3,87 | 105,1 | 4.083 | 569 | 99,46 | 1.002 | |
| Vihtavuori N120 | 3,50 | 98,9 | 4.432 | 461 | 100,0 | 985 | |
| Vihtavuori N130 | 3,75 | 103,5 | 4.317 | 502 | 100,0 | 994 | |
| Alliant Reloder-10x | 3,73 | 102,0 | 4.447 | 536 | 100,0 | 1.022 | |
| Flugbahn | |||||||
| Weite [m] | 0 | 50 | 100 | 150 | 200 | 250 | 300 |
| Schnelle [m/s] | 1.011 | 964 | 918 | 873 | 831 | 787 | 741 |
| Bahn [cm] | -4,5 | +1,3 | +4,5 | +4,8 | +1,8 | -4,7 | -15,0 |
| Leistungen | |||||||
| Fleisch [cm] | 65 | 63 | 62 | 60 | 59 | 58 | 57 |
| Knochen [cm] | 15 | 14 | 14 | 13 | 12 | 11 | 10 |
Vergleich
| Patrone | Geschoß | Masse [g] |
Anfangs- druck [bar] |
Lauf- länge [mm] |
V0 [m/s] |
GEE [m] |
± 5 cm Reichweite [m] |
Fehl- reich- weite [m] |
V300 [m/s] |
Bahn300 [cm] |
|
.338-06 Ackley |
KJG | 9 | 150 | 60 | 1.011 | 217 | 251 | 0 | 741 | -15 |
| CDP | ||||||||||
| KS |
Lies erst ein Türkischer Rekordkeiler 2006 und dann Keilerjagd 2007 in Kleinasien!
Petur,
please measure the Volume of a fired Case. Than I can reckon You a Load.
Lutz, Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:03:58 +0100
Lutz,
filled to the brim, water volume weighs 4,78 grams.
Thanks, Pétur, Mittwoch, 31. Oktober 2007 17:52
Hello, Lutz!
I am looking forward to try the 8,5 mm KJG on driven
boar in my .338-06 Ackley Improved. For your interest
here is some information on how to form cartridges for this calibre. I more or
less follow the advice given by George C. Nonte in his Home Guide to Cartridge
Conversions, Stackpole Books 1967; a standard 30-06 case is primed with a large
pistol primer and then charged with pistol powder, in my case 0,97 g of Bullseye.
For over powder wad a quarter sheet of toilet tissue is then rammed down with a
pencil. The case is filled up with some non-abrasive filler. I use flour for
this and then seal the case with vaseline to avoid spilling the flour. Firing
this in a 338-06 Ackley rifle will produce a perfectly formed cartridge case in
that calibre. The only difference between this case and one fired with full
power load is a slightly sharper shoulder on the latter but shoulder diametre is
the same. While there is no bullet, the force of this charge can cause severe
injury at very close range so one has to be careful.
Regards, Pétur, Samstag, 3. November 2007 19:37
Petur,
be careful with Flour, as it may burn. Saw dust will not.
Lutz,
Hello Lutz,
Thank you for your e-mail and advice. I should have known that you are just as familiar with this aspect of shooting as any other! In my loads for this .338-06 Ackley cartridge I have, until now, used 16,2 g Nosler Partitions on 3,69 g of VV160 and magnum primers. Should I also use magnum primers for the load you recommend for this cartridge/KJG ?
Regards, Pétur, Sonntag, 4. November 2007 15:44
Petur,
that Load was sick! Much too slow Powder. Sure Magnum Primers were right for the Vihtavuori N160, but just 3000 bre are not enough. Those were just 2/3 of the intended Pressure!
Around 4 g are the Powderamount from which You may start to use Magnum Primers. In This Case the fast burning Powders may not require it, but they are an Option. Which Powder will You load?
Sincerely, Lutz
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